a lot of people have left the job market permanently and people not educated now to take those particular jobs so those jobs are gone forever. i have personal experience that i talked about before of trying to find a patternmaker. the garment center no longer exists in new york. you don't find pattern makers any more. the job went overseas and so did the work. amazing. connell: the of this thing in these statistics, 870,000 jobs in the household survey is a huge number but historically ridiculously volatile, two thirds of them were part-time jobs. 582,000 americans taking part-time positions. a lot of those people would rather be working full time but many would rather be working full time. if you are mitt romney talking about a few minutes of terrific week in the debate and they say he won the debate. does this change his strategy or his conversation? i am back, the debate, took it to the president and now we have a jobs report where the president can saying the getting better? >> you can say things are getting better but it is a relative thing. after four years on would hope they are ge